California · Trail 2000.23

Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall

Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail is a 12.8-mile trail in Cleveland National Forest, California. The Forest Service rates it trail class 3, developed. It is open to hiking and horse and pack stock.

Trail conditions, closures and hazards are not tracked here. The Cleveland National Forest official page carries current alerts and closure orders.

Map

One end Other endLine simplified to about 100 metres. Basemap from the USGS National Map.

One end32.8417° N, 116.4183° W · Directions ↗
Other end32.9318° N, 116.4811° W · Directions ↗

The ends are the two ends of the longest connected chain of segments. The record does not say which is the usual start.

The trail

Length12.8 miles
Trail class3, developed
Typeland trail
Surfacenative material
Typical grade12-20 percent
Typical tread width18-24 inches
Motor vehiclesClosed to all motorized use year-round
AccessibilityNot evaluated
National designationNational Scenic or Historic Trail
Trail numbers2000.23
ForestCleveland National Forest (unit 0502)
StatesCalifornia
Detail publishedmanagement level, with uses

Values are the set across all segments. Class 1 is minimally developed and class 5 is fully developed. Grade and width are the forest's typical values, not measured extremes.

Weather by month

NOAA climate normals →
Weather by month near Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail40°50°60°70°80°January: 2.69 inches of precipitationFebruary: 4.82 inches of precipitationMarch: 2.59 inches of precipitationApril: 0.90 inches of precipitationMay: 0.40 inches of precipitationJune: 0.08 inches of precipitationJuly: 0.75 inches of precipitationAugust: 0.49 inches of precipitationSeptember: 0.53 inches of precipitationOctober: 0.70 inches of precipitationNovember: 1.39 inches of precipitationDecember: 2.30 inches of precipitationJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecJanuary: 41.7°F averageFebruary: 41.9°F averageMarch: 45.2°F averageApril: 50.5°F averageMay: 56.9°F averageJune: 65.3°F averageJuly: 71.2°F averageAugust: 70.2°F averageSeptember: 64.9°F averageOctober: 56.0°F averageNovember: 47.3°F averageDecember: 42.2°F average0 in1 in2 in3 in4 in5 inTemp °FInches
The line is the average temperature and the bars are average precipitation at Mt Laguna #3, 2 miles from the trail midpoint at 5,920 feet, station USC00045968 in the NOAA monthly climate normals for 1991 to 2020. Precipitation totals about 18 inches a year.

Allowed uses

HikingAllowed year-round
Horse and pack stockAllowed year-round

A use is listed when the Forest Service records it as managed, accepted or discouraged on any segment. Discouraged still means legal. Uses marked restricted are left out. Where the forest publishes a Motor Vehicle Use Map, that map governs motorized use.

Trailheads

Storm Canyon Vista Trailhead
No season published
under 0.1 mi
Penny Pines Interpretive Site Trailhead
No season published
under 0.1 mi
Red-tailed Roost Trailhead
No season published
0.3 mi

Distance is from the point to the nearest part of the trail line. Season text is what the forest wrote and is often a season name rather than a date.

Trails nearby

Camping nearby

Campsite Atlas cards carry site counts and booking links from Recreation.gov. Forest Service cards come from the recreation layer and link the agency page.

Fire nearby

  • Prescribed
    Oak Woodlands Wcsl Rx

    11 mi from the trail midpoint

Distance is to the reported incident point, not the fire edge. Closure orders are on the forest's official page.

Explore

Guidebooks for California

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  • Walkabout Northern California
    Tom Courtney, 2019
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    Linda B. Mullally, 2018
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    Bubba Suess, 2017
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  • Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail: Southern California
    Shawnte Salabert, 2017
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Reference

Questions people ask

How long is the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

The Forest Service records 12.8 miles under this name in Cleveland National Forest, the sum of 1 segment.

Source: Forest Service trail layer

What is allowed on the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

Hiking and horse and pack stock are allowed. The trail is closed to motor vehicles year-round.

Source: Forest Service trail layer

Where does the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail start?

The line begins at 32.8417° N, 116.4183° W and ends at 32.9318° N, 116.4811° W. The nearest recorded trailhead is Storm Canyon Vista Trailhead, under 0.1 miles from the line. The record does not say which end is the usual start.

Source: Forest Service trail layer

Is the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail in a wilderness area?

No. The trail line does not cross any polygon in the National Wilderness Preservation System layer.

Source: Wilderness Connect

Where can I camp near the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

Burnt Rancheria (0.2 mi), Horse Heaven Group (0.4 mi) and Laguna (0.5 mi) are within five miles of the trail. The camping section lists all 6 with site counts and booking links.

Source: Campsite Atlas

How developed is the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

Trail class 3, which the Forest Service describes as developed. Class 1 is a minimal, unimproved route and class 5 is fully developed, often paved.

Source: Forest Service trail layer

How steep and how wide is the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

The typical grade is 12-20 percent. The typical tread is 18-24 inches wide.

Source: Forest Service trail layer

Is the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail a national trail?

Yes. The record marks it as a National Scenic or Historic Trail.

Source: Forest Service trail layer

Who manages the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

Cleveland National Forest, Forest Service unit 0502. The trail is in California.

Source: Cleveland National Forest official page

Is there a fire near the Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall Trail?

The interagency feed shows 1 active incident within 50 miles of the trail midpoint as of 2026-11-01, the nearest Oak Woodlands Wcsl Rx at 11 miles. Check the forest's closure orders before you go.

Source: Fire nearby

Source

This page is built from 1 segment named Pacific Crest Trail-Thing Vall in the Forest Service TrailNFS_Publish layer, administrative unit 0502. Wilderness overlap is tested against the National Wilderness Preservation System layer from Wilderness Connect. Trailheads and Forest Service campgrounds come from the Forest Service Recreation Opportunities layer. Data refreshed November 1, 2026. The methodology page explains how segments become trails.